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		<title>Comment on Buying Mom Some Facebook Ads For Mother&#8217;s Day by Jon Bellemore</title>
		<link>http://mediawithak.com/2012/05/14/buying-mom-some-facebook-ads-for-mothers-day/#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Bellemore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 14:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good post.]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on A Strictly PR Perspective on PCMR vs Talisker by Dave</title>
		<link>http://mediawithak.com/2012/03/10/a-strictly-pr-perspective-on-pcmr-vs-talisker-11/#comment-485</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 16:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The three Park City resorts all have their perceived pros/cons in the local court of public opinion.

Deer Valley pros: best service, best snowmaking, best food, vastly improved terrain in the last 5 to 10 years, most beautiful (more evergreens as opposed to leafless aspens and gnarled scrub brush).

Deer Valley cons: not &quot;natural&quot; enough due to all the slope side condos and private homes, expense -- season ticket pricing says &quot;go away&quot; to many locals; no pricing consideration given to local public school teachers, police officers, firefighters, honor students, etc.

Canyons pros: best terrain, welcomed infrastructure upgrades, reasonable pricing for local teachers, police, firefighters, honor students, etc.

Canyons cons: difficult slope access from the parking lot, staff still perceived as relatively incompetent (fairly or unfairly), clientele perceived as a huge frat party and less family friendly (again, fairly or unfairly), pricing is expensive for locals who don&#039;t fall into one of the groups mentioned above.

PCMR pros: terrain parks and features, family friendly, most convenient to downtown, most convenient slope access from the parking lot, season ticket pricing is by far the most friendly to locals.

PCMR cons: worst terrain (too many ridge-and-gully runs with inconsistent pitch), recent upgrades have been too focused on terrain parks and features as opposed to general infrastructure, certain runs are frequently dangerously crowded.

That list is my own take, based on what I&#039;ve heard during years of being in business here in town and during many, many local social gatherings.  Note that nowhere on the list is any mention of PCMR being &quot;small&quot; or &quot;local&quot; as a pro or Canyons/Talisker being &quot;big&quot; or &quot;non-local&quot; as a con.  I simply haven&#039;t heard those items.  It&#039;s true that many locals were pulling for Vail Resorts to win their effort to acquire The Canyons way back when, due to a preconception that Talisker would prioritize real estate development over the mountain experience, but no one was kidding themselves that Vail is a small enterprise.  Similarly, no one kids themselves that PCMR is not owned by POWDR Corp.  

So the biggest &quot;aha&quot; that locals have responded to since this thing erupted is, as Phil points out, that the prior lease terms PCMR enjoyed were allegedly a surprisingly small $150,000 per year.  When that news came out, the general response was that Talisker is perfectly correct to stand on any technicality, any right, any excuse at all, to renegotiate.  They&#039;d be foolish not to.  The local populace doesn&#039;t seem too cock-sure about the entities&#039; behavior behind the scenes, but support for PCMR became distinctly less one-sided once that tidbit surfaced, and it made locals view PCMR&#039;s media blitz surrounding their filing of the lawsuit -- as well as the lawsuit itself -- with a somewhat more jaundiced eye.  

So, to the extent that PCMR&#039;s prior lease terms might never have become a topic of public discussion without the PR blitz, the blitz may have done more harm than good.  

If the lease terms were destined to become part of the public dialogue with or without the PR blitz, perhaps the blitz was a positive move after all.  

For what it&#039;s worth...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The three Park City resorts all have their perceived pros/cons in the local court of public opinion.</p>
<p>Deer Valley pros: best service, best snowmaking, best food, vastly improved terrain in the last 5 to 10 years, most beautiful (more evergreens as opposed to leafless aspens and gnarled scrub brush).</p>
<p>Deer Valley cons: not &#8220;natural&#8221; enough due to all the slope side condos and private homes, expense &#8212; season ticket pricing says &#8220;go away&#8221; to many locals; no pricing consideration given to local public school teachers, police officers, firefighters, honor students, etc.</p>
<p>Canyons pros: best terrain, welcomed infrastructure upgrades, reasonable pricing for local teachers, police, firefighters, honor students, etc.</p>
<p>Canyons cons: difficult slope access from the parking lot, staff still perceived as relatively incompetent (fairly or unfairly), clientele perceived as a huge frat party and less family friendly (again, fairly or unfairly), pricing is expensive for locals who don&#8217;t fall into one of the groups mentioned above.</p>
<p>PCMR pros: terrain parks and features, family friendly, most convenient to downtown, most convenient slope access from the parking lot, season ticket pricing is by far the most friendly to locals.</p>
<p>PCMR cons: worst terrain (too many ridge-and-gully runs with inconsistent pitch), recent upgrades have been too focused on terrain parks and features as opposed to general infrastructure, certain runs are frequently dangerously crowded.</p>
<p>That list is my own take, based on what I&#8217;ve heard during years of being in business here in town and during many, many local social gatherings.  Note that nowhere on the list is any mention of PCMR being &#8220;small&#8221; or &#8220;local&#8221; as a pro or Canyons/Talisker being &#8220;big&#8221; or &#8220;non-local&#8221; as a con.  I simply haven&#8217;t heard those items.  It&#8217;s true that many locals were pulling for Vail Resorts to win their effort to acquire The Canyons way back when, due to a preconception that Talisker would prioritize real estate development over the mountain experience, but no one was kidding themselves that Vail is a small enterprise.  Similarly, no one kids themselves that PCMR is not owned by POWDR Corp.  </p>
<p>So the biggest &#8220;aha&#8221; that locals have responded to since this thing erupted is, as Phil points out, that the prior lease terms PCMR enjoyed were allegedly a surprisingly small $150,000 per year.  When that news came out, the general response was that Talisker is perfectly correct to stand on any technicality, any right, any excuse at all, to renegotiate.  They&#8217;d be foolish not to.  The local populace doesn&#8217;t seem too cock-sure about the entities&#8217; behavior behind the scenes, but support for PCMR became distinctly less one-sided once that tidbit surfaced, and it made locals view PCMR&#8217;s media blitz surrounding their filing of the lawsuit &#8212; as well as the lawsuit itself &#8212; with a somewhat more jaundiced eye.  </p>
<p>So, to the extent that PCMR&#8217;s prior lease terms might never have become a topic of public discussion without the PR blitz, the blitz may have done more harm than good.  </p>
<p>If the lease terms were destined to become part of the public dialogue with or without the PR blitz, perhaps the blitz was a positive move after all.  </p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can We Heat Vermont With Irene&#8217;s Riverbank Trees? by Lotfali</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lotfali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 15:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do, exclusively.  But there may be other, larger scale ways to harvest the wood.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do, exclusively.  But there may be other, larger scale ways to harvest the wood.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can We Heat Vermont With Irene&#8217;s Riverbank Trees? by mediawithak</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 14:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point there... Do you otherwise heat with wood?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point there&#8230; Do you otherwise heat with wood?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Can We Heat Vermont With Irene&#8217;s Riverbank Trees? by Lotfali</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 14:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have some of those trees on my property and the amount of time I&#039;d have to spend sharpening and re-sharpening my chain saw - as inundated with silt, sand and small rocks as they are - discourages me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some of those trees on my property and the amount of time I&#8217;d have to spend sharpening and re-sharpening my chain saw &#8211; as inundated with silt, sand and small rocks as they are &#8211; discourages me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vermont Travel Industry Conference April 12-13 by Troy @ Travel 2.0 (@travel2dot0)</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Troy @ Travel 2.0 (@travel2dot0)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mercy, that is a good looking headshot!

- Troy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mercy, that is a good looking headshot!</p>
<p>- Troy</p>
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		<title>Comment on Client and Employment Update March 2012 by Vermont Travel Industry Conference April 12-13 &#124; MediawithAK Solutions &#8211; Marketing l PR l Social Media l Ski Biz</title>
		<link>http://mediawithak.com/2012/03/07/client-and-employment-update-march-2012/#comment-449</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vermont Travel Industry Conference April 12-13 &#124; MediawithAK Solutions &#8211; Marketing l PR l Social Media l Ski Biz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] and half Ski The East Online Editor, Sales, and PR guy. Yes, I do both of those things. This recent post explains. T2 of Travel [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and half Ski The East Online Editor, Sales, and PR guy. Yes, I do both of those things. This recent post explains. T2 of Travel [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Strictly PR Perspective on PCMR vs Talisker by Johnny Rice</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johnny Rice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 03:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do you mean by seriously sidetracked by its terrain parks? More like put on the map. In a world of wannabes, PCMR stands out as one of the best terrain park operations in WORLD. Yes, parks cost money, but the amount of &quot;free&quot; press generated in all the ski and snowboard magazines/websites is totally worth it. I&#039;ve been to Cutter&#039;s Camp at Mt. Hood the last two years (terrain park conference, course) talking to all the heads of the industry, and all I have to say is, it&#039;s only just beginning. Go count how many kids roll through that park on a given day, because none of them would be there if it was just a bunch of groomers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you mean by seriously sidetracked by its terrain parks? More like put on the map. In a world of wannabes, PCMR stands out as one of the best terrain park operations in WORLD. Yes, parks cost money, but the amount of &#8220;free&#8221; press generated in all the ski and snowboard magazines/websites is totally worth it. I&#8217;ve been to Cutter&#8217;s Camp at Mt. Hood the last two years (terrain park conference, course) talking to all the heads of the industry, and all I have to say is, it&#8217;s only just beginning. Go count how many kids roll through that park on a given day, because none of them would be there if it was just a bunch of groomers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Strictly PR Perspective on PCMR vs Talisker by Phil Gross</title>
		<link>http://mediawithak.com/2012/03/10/a-strictly-pr-perspective-on-pcmr-vs-talisker-11/#comment-440</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil Gross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From a &quot;strict&quot; PR perspective, I think that Park City Mountain Resort (PCMR) initiated a very dangerous game. In the past, PCMR could have purchased the land, but choose not too, since its land lease was so cheap, allegedly at some $150,000 a year. This figure has since surfaced through countless comments in response to the Park Record Article (the local paper). This in itself is not good as it shows what a bargain the lease was.  

Even thought PCMR attempted to rally the town&#039;s population on its side, the early responses would suggest that the resort isn&#039;t getting the expected support.  What is true is that Talisker has invested much more in Canyons than PCMR has during the same period, and what used to be Utah&#039;s largest resort has gotten seriously sidetracked by its terrain park and is falling significantly behind its two next door competitors that have led in terms of service and infrastructure. 

By taking its plight to the court of public opinion in spite of the confidentiality agreement surrounding its negotiations with Talisker, PCMR doesn&#039;t seem to have much of a legal leg to stand on and at the end of the day will probably have to abide by its landlord&#039;s new terms and conditions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a &#8220;strict&#8221; PR perspective, I think that Park City Mountain Resort (PCMR) initiated a very dangerous game. In the past, PCMR could have purchased the land, but choose not too, since its land lease was so cheap, allegedly at some $150,000 a year. This figure has since surfaced through countless comments in response to the Park Record Article (the local paper). This in itself is not good as it shows what a bargain the lease was.  </p>
<p>Even thought PCMR attempted to rally the town&#8217;s population on its side, the early responses would suggest that the resort isn&#8217;t getting the expected support.  What is true is that Talisker has invested much more in Canyons than PCMR has during the same period, and what used to be Utah&#8217;s largest resort has gotten seriously sidetracked by its terrain park and is falling significantly behind its two next door competitors that have led in terms of service and infrastructure. </p>
<p>By taking its plight to the court of public opinion in spite of the confidentiality agreement surrounding its negotiations with Talisker, PCMR doesn&#8217;t seem to have much of a legal leg to stand on and at the end of the day will probably have to abide by its landlord&#8217;s new terms and conditions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Strictly PR Perspective on PCMR vs Talisker by mediawithak</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the comment Krista. No doubt that if the situation has become as dire as stated, then you gotta do what you gotta do. Impressive rollout in that regard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Krista. No doubt that if the situation has become as dire as stated, then you gotta do what you gotta do. Impressive rollout in that regard.</p>
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